| Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas | |
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+10Mystifier chrisw ElpChidori Eternal2 Zanos Krypto406 #Austic Shadow Ozirus lRoderick 14 posters |
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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 2:23 pm | |
| Ohhh shnap, Rod making another nerf topic? Dammit I'm done reading these and just ganna make a reply saying that the damage isnt op and that he's gay. For those that want to read on : - Spoiler:
Okay so recently I have noticed that Uchiha damage is pretty.. well annoying on my kaguya who has nearly 65+ defence. But seeing as I pwn most you noobs I didnt really see a reason to make a nerf topic. But then I saw what Jase did to me... Still didnt make one. But now, with this new presented evidence by my good friend Ozi, I have now found a solid reason to make one. So as we all know most Uchihas have dick road the Iron passive for the 35 nin and 10% passive on CD. That is the stats that Ozi had on his alt uchiha. He then tested the same damage on A windie with implants and wind shield which is about 46% defence with 1.4k hp. Now I know what your thinking, they nerfed uchihas, so why is a nerf still the topic? Well, look below This is with a landed Phoenix of all the blast with 173% Jutsu power, the damage came out to be 500+. Against someone with 46% defence. Now against a normal person this damage would reach about double this because most people only have 20-25% defence if their not in their own village. This is with a landed DF, notice something? This one tiled attack did almost as much damage as Phonix fire and its not even homing and multi hits. And against someone who isnt in their village this will do around 800+. This is with both attacks landed which came out to be about 800+. Now against someone with normal defence this is pretty much death against anyone who is squishy like a yuki. the damage is about 1400-1600 with both landed on a normal person. Let it be known that you most likely wont get landed by both of these at the same time, or may dodge them a bit. But the point is this damage is -possible-. There is no other clan on the game who can reach this amount of damage in such a little amount of time. The idea of Uchiha accoridng to Berlin was to make Uchiha pretty weak normally but reach damage this high when in mang mode, which is how it should be. To all those nay -sayers that Uchiha isnt a bit off the scale compared to other clans, I think you should re read this a few times.
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Ozirus
Posts : 390 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 31 Location : Chicago, IL
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 2:33 pm | |
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- There is no other clan on the game who can reach this amount of damage in such a little amount of time. The idea of Uchiha accoridng to Berlin was to make Uchiha pretty weak normally but reach damage this high when in mang mode, which is how it should be.
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 2:35 pm | |
| u got something wrong though...if 43% def is 800+ damage...20% is not 1600...it would be 1000
EDIT: ignore this post since i made it because i thought rod was saying df alone would do 1400-1600 on normal ppl
EDIT2: actually no i was right nvm the edit
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Ozirus
Posts : 390 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 31 Location : Chicago, IL
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 2:38 pm | |
| Thats still a fuck ton of damage from only using 1 jutsu nub. No clan can pull off that amount of damage other then Uchiha. | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 2:57 pm | |
| i also said this in the other topic
df is linear, the stuntime depends on the range im pretty sure ozirus stood in those flames until the flames vanished...this adds flame damage as well as inferno which gets refreshed by every flame hit now to get this damage u would have to hit with df an enemy whos at the end of df range to get 1.5 stuntime
so its pretty hard to do imo | |
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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 3:50 pm | |
| The jutsus are 'hard' or not possible to do, but at the same time its possible for the damage to happen. Whos to say while you get DF'd they move to youwhile invisible and use chidori current? Then your slowed and take all of DF.
If your i a tree area or around buildings oyu may have limited movement and will get hit by the DF flames because of mobility. Espcially in raids you will find your way into some scnearios where you will take the girth fo the attacks. | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 4:01 pm | |
| yes it is possible but its not like u can hit every 2nd df... anyway...what u guys want is that to force us to use mangekyou as a regular boost like its the case with golden sand...so u want to nerf our damage while not using mangekyou aside from the fact that it will be useless once ems is in im completly against turning mangekyou into another golden sand...come on its ms...fucking ms...it should be used as ur last option not as a normal boost...the drawbacks should be so bad that we shouldnt be able to use it in every single fight the chakra cost and blindness should be so op that u should think twice about even using it as ur last option
that being said i want to know one thing...if ms + its jutsus hadnt been added...would u still think uciha is op? dont fucking tell me damage is op...i mean overall
so we are still at the beginning...u guys still want option 1 and i still want option 2
"If your i a tree area or around buildings oyu may have limited movement and will get hit by the DF flames because of mobility. Espcially in raids you will find your way into some scnearios where you will take the girth fo the attacks." df is not the only jutsu that comes handy / is op in those situations | |
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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 4:15 pm | |
| - Quote :
- that being said i want to know one thing...if ms + its jutsus hadnt been added...would u still think uciha is op? dont fucking tell me damage is op...i mean overall
This was tested without ms. And the fact Uchihas can dish this kind of damage without it proves that yes, the damage is overall op. - Quote :
- df is not the only jutsu that comes handy / is op in those situations
I'm not saying it isnt, but its the one Im noticing right now that does the most damage at one time. | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 4:19 pm | |
| so would u guys even accept the 2nd option? uchiha high damage without any slows/stuns? | |
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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 4:31 pm | |
| - Shadow wrote:
- so would u guys even accept the 2nd option? uchiha high damage without any slows/stuns?
Keep the slows and stuns, Nerf the damage, nuff said. | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 4:33 pm | |
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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 4:33 pm | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 5:07 pm | |
| ah u know what...fuck it i doubt u guys will stop until ms turned into a regular boost nerfing normal damage to hell...and it seems that most uchihas or maybe even all aside from me are fine with it i just wanted a high damage clan with no slows/stuns but the new ms + u guys make that impossible...so yh fuck it idc anymore...do whatever u want with uchiha...i wont try to prevent it
im gonna go copy clan once it added and get all fire jutsus and no stuns/slows...i dare u guys to complain about me having 7 damaging (4 fire) jutsus | |
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#Austic
Posts : 1289 Join date : 2013-03-01 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 5:16 pm | |
| Uchiha was a WAY better clan pre-current. Shit is borderline dumb now | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 5:19 pm | |
| I agree with shadow how Mang should only be used in those rare situations. But that damage does seem high. P.S I didn't notice a single difference in any of the photos on the damage tests. | |
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Zanos
Posts : 671 Join date : 2013-02-05
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 5:40 pm | |
| How is it that Uchiha got nerfed like three times since Berlin said it was okay and people still think it's OP? | |
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Eternal2
Posts : 909 Join date : 2013-02-14 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 6:20 pm | |
| Without the inferno slow you can basically dodge their combos no problem. I voted for the higher damage, but no slows proposal and I'll still stand by that. Huge damage for the skilled players, and no damage for the weak ones is fine by me.
The only thing I think may find op is Unleash. They got every nerf they needed other than Unleash anyway. Once that is nerfed, I won't see a problem. | |
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ElpChidori
Posts : 891 Join date : 2013-04-05 Age : 31 Location : The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 7:10 pm | |
| Even MS is getting Nerfed with 30% on Amaterasu Unleash now. Dafuq you people want, GTFO. A 4th nerf on Uchiha, great.
Yuki's can do almost nearly OHKO with their combos when they hit Kaguyas do around 50-60% HP damage I don't have to add anything on Iron..
If a full combo hits, you're done for. That's how it is. I see people complain about Hunter being OP now, srsly it's damn retarded that everyone keeps complaining and complaining jheeze. Whaahh.. Cry more. | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 7:16 pm | |
| - Zanos wrote:
- How is it that Uchiha got nerfed like three times since Berlin said it was okay and people still think it's OP?
- Mystifier wrote:
- Everyone is quick to blame game mechanics when something isn't in their favor instead of accepting that someone/something else is better than them at this point in time.
^this probably and it has become some sort of nng tradition to complain about uchiha | |
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ElpChidori
Posts : 891 Join date : 2013-04-05 Age : 31 Location : The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 7:18 pm | |
| - Shadow wrote:
- Zanos wrote:
- How is it that Uchiha got nerfed like three times since Berlin said it was okay and people still think it's OP?
- Mystifier wrote:
- Everyone is quick to blame game mechanics when something isn't in their favor instead of accepting that someone/something else is better than them at this point in time.
^this probably and it has become some sort of nng tradition to complain about uchiha Fuck that truth hit hard. Also, it's usually Rod crying anyway, to the point I can't even take these posts seriously. | |
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chrisw
Posts : 199 Join date : 2013-02-24
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 7:50 pm | |
| I agree, it seems Uchiha don't even try to use fireball anymore enless in mangekyou. They just spam phoenix and DF, and I usually manage to dodge most of them but if I get hit by just 1 ball I end up missing like 1/3 of my total health after inferno(Jase after demoted). | |
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Mystifier
Posts : 231 Join date : 2013-03-31
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 7:51 pm | |
| There a few players ( you all can guess who it is by looking at the author of the majority of nerf threads) who bitch about everything that have trouble beating. With that said, all combo's are strong. It's multiple jutsu. Stop bitching about combos. | |
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#Austic
Posts : 1289 Join date : 2013-03-01 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 7:59 pm | |
| The dmg in general is too high. Fights are too short | |
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Ozirus
Posts : 390 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 31 Location : Chicago, IL
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 8:18 pm | |
| Make phoenix fire not home then. | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Guess what? Rod's still mad at Uchihas Thu May 30, 2013 8:28 pm | |
| homing was added because u cant spread the shots anymore if homing was removed we should be able to spread the shots again | |
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