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+7Kenzo master-t Zioro Zanos Shadow Kyuz lRoderick 11 posters |
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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:59 am | |
| ....
A bit of a problem I have with hiding is just how ... it can be strung together with certain attacks. A pretty good example in mind
My good friend Elp has this tendency to use Hide then wait for the chidori current to get off CD.
So basically what happends is this person hides then creeps up next to you AND
Insert stupid Uchiha combo here
Or
Insert free slow and strongest attack here(I.e Kag mystical wall of no charge uptime)
This takes away from fighting and just indorses CDs
My solution or idea to fixing this would be to you can't attack after coming out of hiding for 5 seconds. This tags along with you can't use master sub then attack someone for free slow / rain damage. | |
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Kyuz
Posts : 1003 Join date : 2013-03-03
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:08 am | |
| That makes the ambush passive completely useless.. | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:47 am | |
| pfft using chidori current while hiding? at least do it right and use chidori to get ambush passive boost | |
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Zanos
Posts : 671 Join date : 2013-02-05
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:20 pm | |
| Wait, you're complaining about hiding and not complaining about Hyuugas LITERALLY instagibbing people from hide? They're better assassins then yukis.
Hide isn't op though. | |
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Zioro
Posts : 24 Join date : 2013-03-29
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:25 pm | |
| Level 26 INT - Hide you chakra systems while invisible.
Yes? No? | |
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master-t
Posts : 2 Join date : 2013-03-26
| Subject: re Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:44 pm | |
| Or just make it so you cant freeze or slow for 3 seconds after coming out of hiding | |
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Kyuz
Posts : 1003 Join date : 2013-03-03
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:51 pm | |
| I agree with master-t's suggestion, that would be a nice solution | |
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Kenzo
Posts : 187 Join date : 2013-03-24 Location : Sand Village
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:35 pm | |
| Isn't it just 30% on the first attack? Or is it 30% for a period of time? | |
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Ozirus
Posts : 390 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 31 Location : Chicago, IL
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:02 pm | |
| - Kenzo wrote:
- Isn't it just 30% on the first attack? Or is it 30% for a period of time?
I believe 5 or 10 seconds | |
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Zanos
Posts : 671 Join date : 2013-02-05
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:17 pm | |
| The first attack within five seconds. | |
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ElpChidori
Posts : 891 Join date : 2013-04-05 Age : 31 Location : The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:19 pm | |
| This comment made me LOL. Hiding is an effective way of ambushing your opponent. I often use it to perform a sneak attack to kill others. And yeh, I used Chidori Current to stun enemy, so I could follow it up with a stronger attack.
We are shinobi for god sakes. | |
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Kenzo
Posts : 187 Join date : 2013-03-24 Location : Sand Village
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:44 pm | |
| Since it's just the first attack I don't see any problem with it...although to me it's cheap to use lol | |
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Zioro
Posts : 24 Join date : 2013-03-29
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:48 pm | |
| Hiding should stay the way it is. There's nothing op about it. If you're alone and get ambushed, good. If you're kage, even better. If you're with other people and get ambushed they'll help.
Plus if you do get ambushed alone you have 2 option. Fight back, or run. Lol not many people kill you in the duration of one stun. | |
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Zanos
Posts : 671 Join date : 2013-02-05
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:51 pm | |
| - Zioro wrote:
- Hiding should stay the way it is. There's nothing op about it. If you're alone and get ambushed, good. If you're kage, even better. If you're with other people and get ambushed they'll help.
Plus if you do get ambushed alone you have 2 option. Fight back, or run. Lol not many people kill you in the duration of one stun. Except for hyuugas. | |
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Zioro
Posts : 24 Join date : 2013-03-29
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:54 pm | |
| Lol well that's just one clan. Plus they still need tweaks. Or you can just half the duration of stuns/slow skills of a hiding player. Anyway like i said. If you're alone and ambushed you deserve to die. | |
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Takeda Ikki
Posts : 214 Join date : 2013-03-16 Age : 30 Location : In the "Studio"
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:20 pm | |
| Wait we can use hiding to fight? | |
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Zioro
Posts : 24 Join date : 2013-03-29
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:01 pm | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:26 pm | |
| So your saying if you go to your village to turn in an A rank and you click the mission board, then you realized you died cause a hyuuga or uchiha just killed you from hide you deserve to die cause nobody else is in the village? | |
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Zioro
Posts : 24 Join date : 2013-03-29
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:05 pm | |
| Yes. And that wouldn't be a cause of hiding being "op". That would be because you have a very underpopulated village. Anyway I know you're in leaf and now that there's much stronger people in leaf why would that happen to you anymore? | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:17 pm | |
| general post, also being killed in your own village cause someone uses a hide combo on you is your fault? | |
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Zioro
Posts : 24 Join date : 2013-03-29
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:19 pm | |
| Never said it was your fault. The player deserves their kill and you, assuming it's you, would deserve your death.
Do you want a random samurai to teleport to your aid and be like "NOT IN MY HOUSE"? | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:13 pm | |
| So that a player deserves to die because either: A. the Villager are out doing missions and such B. In an underpopulated village
Why would they deserve to die over factors they can't control? And by the way you can't always have people follow you so you don't get hide killed. | |
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Zioro
Posts : 24 Join date : 2013-03-29
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:48 am | |
| So you saying the player deserves the Dikembe Mutumbo Samurai support? | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Restrict Hiding Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:40 pm | |
| I'm saying if your going to die in your own village he should be able to see them coming, not just insta die because the person was in hide. | |
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