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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: uchiha nerf Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:52 pm | |
| not gonna list the ones that got their own thread
so lets start with clone explosion..thats the jutsu i always thought to be op once ur lvl 120 the stun + damage is too much especially when we fight kaguyas/hyuugas...so either decrease damage or decrease the stuntime or both
lets go on with phoenix flower decrease damage by 10% and remove one shot
dragon flames should either be slowed down and/or damage decreased by 20%-25%
chidori is fine
and i dont rly know about fireball
idk about falcon drop since i rarely use it
and again i still think cd is a bit too low | |
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Eternal2
Posts : 909 Join date : 2013-02-14 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: uchiha nerf Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:28 pm | |
| The main thing for Uchihas is CDs and projectile speed. Every jutsu they have does good damage, compared to other clans that usually have 1 or 2 jutsus that can do good damage with a reasonable chance to hit. If a clan has 5 high damaging jutsu, then there is absolutely no reason for them to be have such low CDs and such high dmg. | |
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Zanos
Posts : 671 Join date : 2013-02-05
| Subject: Re: uchiha nerf Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:43 pm | |
| Uchiha is the only clan in the game with chakra issues that has to invest heavily in Int and their skilltree only for chakra.
Also, every Uchiha jutsu is predictable even at max projectile speed.
Fireball has a pretty high charge time, and still has handseal time even with 15 handseals and sharingan.
Dragon Flames is single tiled.
Phoenix is single tiled and slow.
Clone explosions requires you to be stupid enough to hit something standing completely still and consumes a pretty decent amount of chakra.
The two melee clans in this game can trash Uchihas if you play smart because
1. Hyuugas drain chakras which Uchihas regenerate at snails pace and 2. Kaguyas can just attrition Uchihas into burning chakra by running around and with their higher regen/damage reduction.
If you keep moving, an Uchiha will never hit you, ever. The lower their CDs are, the more chakra an Uchiha is using to spam shit. And most Uchihas have the first two Uchihas rebirths which are +12 handseals(cooldown reduction) and -20% nin CDR from dojutsu mastery. | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: uchiha nerf Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:02 pm | |
| thats my suggestion if the majority of them are complaining about uchihas being op if thats not the case and its only eternal ignore this thread also if ud try to dodge as much as we uchihas do i doubt ud say uchihas are op actually u would be able to own pretty much any uchiha its not my fault if its easy as hell to hit u with a linear jutsu | |
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chrisw
Posts : 199 Join date : 2013-02-24
| Subject: Re: uchiha nerf Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:05 pm | |
| lol zanos, and fire stays around for quite a long time so you dont even have to get hit by the actual fireball to be damage really high and clone explosion when your a melee is almost instant so if your punching already it's almost always gonna hit | |
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Eternal2
Posts : 909 Join date : 2013-02-14 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: uchiha nerf Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:07 pm | |
| You say the word dodge as if it's a verb and if I clicked it more I'd dodge anything. Every last one of my jutsus are one tiled, so I'm bound to get hit by your one-tiled jutsus am I not? But maybe I was wrong, maybe Uchihas aren't overpowered. I guess Uchihas > Yuuki. If that's the case, buff Yuki please. | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: uchiha nerf Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:10 pm | |
| - _Shadow_ wrote:
- thats my suggestion if the majority of them are complaining about uchihas being op
if thats not the case and its only eternal ignore this thread also if ud try to dodge as much as we uchihas do i doubt ud say uchihas are op actually u would be able to own pretty much any uchiha its not my fault if its easy as hell to hit u with a linear jutsu Windies can do this and still lose because 2 of our good damage dealers are self stuns leaving us wide open for a easy kill, no point in dodging everything only to not be able to kill your opponent because you only have 1 good jutsu that deals damage on the move, which has a decent cd. | |
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Zanos
Posts : 671 Join date : 2013-02-05
| Subject: Re: uchiha nerf Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:14 pm | |
| - Eternal2 wrote:
- You say the word dodge as if it's a verb and if I clicked it more I'd dodge anything. Every last one of my jutsus are one tiled, so I'm bound to get hit by your one-tiled jutsus am I not? But maybe I was wrong, maybe Uchihas aren't overpowered. I guess Uchihas > Yuuki. If that's the case, buff Yuki please.
You're a horrible Yuki if you're doing anything besides lightning flash->ice prison->iceberg breaker-> sweet spot 1k needles. | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: uchiha nerf Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:15 pm | |
| @krypto well wind needs a buff then... | |
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Eternal2
Posts : 909 Join date : 2013-02-14 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: uchiha nerf Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:48 pm | |
| I'm not capped yet Zanos. I can't use lightning flash, and my CDs are still kinda high, since I haven't trained handseals yet. I'm sure I'll rape at 120. But if you couldn't tell most of that comment was sarcasm. There's nothing wrong with Yuki. Except maybe their hp. | |
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Gluscap
Posts : 198 Join date : 2013-02-04
| Subject: Re: uchiha nerf Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:16 pm | |
| - Zanos wrote:
- The two melee clans in this game can trash Uchihas if you play smart because
1. Hyuugas drain chakras which Uchihas regenerate at snails pace and 2. Kaguyas can just attrition Uchihas into burning chakra by running around and with their higher regen/damage reduction.
imo, I could say the same thing. uchihas can trash melee clans if you play smart and wait until the first sign of committal from kags/hyuugas before using their clone jutsu. i don't really sympathize with the "you have to be stupid to be hit with this jutsu" argument, i mean stupid people will just use it whenever and stupid people will attack it whenever. if its used with an ounce of intelligence it can be used very potently | |
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#Austic
Posts : 1289 Join date : 2013-03-01 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: uchiha nerf Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:48 pm | |
| - Nathanok wrote:
- Zanos wrote:
- The two melee clans in this game can trash Uchihas if you play smart because
1. Hyuugas drain chakras which Uchihas regenerate at snails pace and 2. Kaguyas can just attrition Uchihas into burning chakra by running around and with their higher regen/damage reduction.
imo, I could say the same thing. uchihas can trash melee clans if you play smart and wait until the first sign of committal from kags/hyuugas before using their clone jutsu.
i don't really sympathize with the "you have to be stupid to be hit with this jutsu" argument, i mean stupid people will just use it whenever and stupid people will attack it whenever. if its used with an ounce of intelligence it can be used very potently are you trying to tell me I'm the goat? | |
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Hyamoto
Posts : 243 Join date : 2013-02-24 Location : Sleeping bag, Anywhere
| Subject: Re: uchiha nerf Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:07 am | |
| - _Shadow_ wrote:
- not gonna list the ones that got their own thread
so lets start with clone explosion..thats the jutsu i always thought to be op once ur lvl 120 the stun + damage is too much especially when we fight kaguyas/hyuugas...so either decrease damage or decrease the stuntime or both
lets go on with phoenix flower decrease damage by 10% and remove one shot
dragon flames should either be slowed down and/or damage decreased by 20%-25%
chidori is fine
and i dont rly know about fireball
idk about falcon drop since i rarely use it
and again i still think cd is a bit too low Clone explosion is kind've a given, don't hit anything that runs then suddenly stops moving, sometimes you can't stop yourself though. Longer CD would be nice though. Phoenix flower is fine, and if ANY nerf, maybe like 5% or so. Dragon flames is fine Chidori needs a LONGER cooldown, people've been using it to run away at retarded speed, and with it having such a low cooldown for right now? lolchidoribyeFalcon drop is fine. If anything just a little longer cooldowns. Or fucking remove inferno so the fucking shit doesn't keep adding up[strike]Edit: This is from a hyuuga's PoV | |
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