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PostSubject: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 29, 2013 2:27 am

-Make Toxic last for a bit more
-Reduce iron sand gathering cd by 2-5 seconds
-Make it that once your caught in Iron Sand Cluster you'll be stunned till the Square drops or make it that you cant use lighting flash to get out of it while You get caught in it like Emp did, its hard enough catching some in it while they run
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 29, 2013 2:31 am

Disagree with the last one, you have a short amount of time you can react to it, I'm just quick you fucker
edit disagree with the first too, Iron dmg is already nice af
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 29, 2013 2:36 am

Iron sand wont be worked on to much until it's official Skill Tree is out, since not sure what skill will be effected in what way when they have a real one. Also Iron is more than fine as it is now. o.o
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 29, 2013 4:51 am

Either way I definitely agree you shouldn't be able to lightning flash out of cluster.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 29, 2013 5:49 am

I don't know how I feel about Iron. I mean, Iron Sand world is just so strong as a disable, control, damage, and lets you follow up with moar damage because the slow is so good, and covers more than a screen worth of an area.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 29, 2013 10:24 am

NO !!!


That move where you summon all dem sand spikes is enough to troll people, and for you to smash the shit out of them. No moar !
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 29, 2013 11:02 am

From what I saw iron sand is good for killing Yuukis, since you know we have no hp. If we get caught it's GG. But for an Iron to kill a Kaguya, please I still haven't seen the day.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 29, 2013 11:39 am

body illusion is not working against that cluster jutsu and i dont think its working against iron world either...bug or supposed to be like this?
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 29, 2013 11:46 am

_Shadow_ wrote:
body illusion is not working against that cluster jutsu and i dont think its working against iron world either...bug or supposed to be like this?


You're probably poisoned when you use your illusion and you use the illusion for a poison strike instead of blocking the jutsu.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 29, 2013 11:48 am

nope poison strikes or damage over time in general doesnt activate body illusion
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 29, 2013 11:54 am

You sure? You should test it out because inferno does activate my water clones.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 3:05 pm

Eternal2 wrote:
You sure? You should test it out because inferno does activate my water clones.

Inferno isn't coded as a DoT, it's literally being on fire.
whilst the poison is more of a HP drain like CS per example.
therefore it wont trigger plus it could be abused, be poisoned within the next 5 seconds you can just illusion fuck the opponent.

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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 3:55 pm

Irons can't do anything against Hyuugas or Kags in a 1v1 that are 100+. Basically anyone with moderately high HP is almost unkillable to an Iron.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 4:09 pm

Their moves seem so out of proportion.. I think Seedling Ferns should work as Iron Sand World (reverse that).
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 5:59 pm

Ando wrote:
Irons can't do anything against Hyuugas or Kags in a 1v1 that are 100+. Basically anyone with moderately high HP is almost unkillable to an Iron.

Incorrect Irons toxic is % based
if you can keep your DoT on them for 100 seconds straight it's a KS, there is nothing they can do but run, this of course requires hitting the target every 5 seconds to re apply the toxic
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 01, 2013 6:36 pm

lmfao i want to see the guy hitting hyuugas/kaguyas every 5 sec for 100 sec without getting caught by them
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 02, 2013 12:13 pm

_Shadow_ wrote:
lmfao i want to see the guy hitting hyuugas/kaguyas every 5 sec for 100 sec without getting caught by them
They have jutsu's and can throw kunais plus these jutsus do there own damage, meaning that people either blitz irons or have to run away.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 02, 2013 12:20 pm

Neko Seijuro wrote:
_Shadow_ wrote:
lmfao i want to see the guy hitting hyuugas/kaguyas every 5 sec for 100 sec without getting caught by them
They have jutsu's and can throw kunais plus these jutsus do there own damage, meaning that people either blitz irons or have to run away.

And when they get rushed they die to melees, their only way to get them off is to sub and backdash but then if they got caught they are already around half and slowed, so the hyuuga/kag can get back in their face mad easy.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 02, 2013 12:20 pm

<.< lag caused this double post


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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 02, 2013 3:57 pm

Neko Seijuro wrote:
Ando wrote:
Irons can't do anything against Hyuugas or Kags in a 1v1 that are 100+. Basically anyone with moderately high HP is almost unkillable to an Iron.

Incorrect Irons toxic is % based
if you can keep your DoT on them for 100 seconds straight it's a KS, there is nothing they can do but run, this of course requires hitting the target every 5 seconds to re apply the toxic
Doesn't matter. The poison doesn't do nearly as much damage as you think it does. Also, you can lightning flash out of their strongest jutsu, which is stupid due to the fact that if you miss that jutsu, you're kind of screwed unless all you do is run until it's off CD.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 02, 2013 5:30 pm

I agree. Irons can only beat clans like Yuuki because their nin damage sucks. Either poison neds a buff, or their jutsu damage needs a buff. I suggest buffing poison cause with their bind their jutsus are extremely easy to hit with. And imo I don't think poison is even stronger than inferno or other DOT jutsus. Poison should be the strongest DOT jutsu in the game.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Buff!   Iron Buff! I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 02, 2013 8:30 pm

Eternal2 wrote:
I agree. Irons can only beat clans like Yuuki because their nin damage sucks. Either poison neds a buff, or their jutsu damage needs a buff. I suggest buffing poison cause with their bind their jutsus are extremely easy to hit with. And imo I don't think poison is even stronger than inferno or other DOT jutsus. Poison should be the strongest DOT jutsu in the game.
yuki, no thanks! But yeah the intial DOT damage from the poison is laughable. Should do damage based off heir nin instead of just a flat out %. But once again when the skill tree comes out all this might be fixed.
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