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PostSubject: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:15 pm

Edit: I posted this a very long time ago, But I'll bump it in response to the new Mission ideas, such as Escorting a Kage. Not bumping this because it should be implemented now. Just for the people who did not see this post. Suggestions will be considered after all the other stuff has finished.

I have a suggestion which is the following: I believe that there should be a command for Kage's to be able to trigger the Truce option. This command would enable to send a Truce invitation towards a Kage of another village. If accepted, both villages are allies temporarily and unable to harm one another in battle.

This means that this can be used when 1 village for instance is having too many Golden Age's in a row, or when they are simply too powerful to fight against.

However. There should be some conditions put on this to prevent village bullying from happening:

Condition One: Can only activate Truce option once every 3 hours. (Real-time)
Condition Two*: Truce only works for 30 minutes / Or Lenght of 1 Golden Age
Condition Three: When a Golden Age is triggered. The Influence will be divided by both villages with 125% Inf.

*In case the 2nd is too long. It can be arranged to 20 minutes / Lenght of 1 Golden Age

I also think that. When this Truce option is triggered. It should put an alert to the whole game that a Truce is about to happen. In order for the Truce to start. Both Kage's have to meet at either their own or the opposite Kage House of their villages. The contract signing should have the double lenght of a Bandum capture, and it should be possible by the opposing village to intercept this signing. It should be made in a way that both Kage's are immobile during the signing, which means that they can actually be easily disposed when planned wisely.

Also. The Truce option should be an S-rank mission. Succesful signing counts as an S-rank for Kage's, whereby Anbu's will get an S-Rank mission to escort/protect their Kage's.
Truce option can only be enabled when a Kage is present at the Kage House (Talk to an NPC) And only be signed when both Kage's are present in 1 location.
When the Truce is not made in less than 5 minutes, (Due to Interception/Distraction) both villages lose 5 Inf, whereby the opposing village gains 10 Influence.

Tell me what you think. If you think it's a good idea, but feel like wanting to add or change anything towards this suggestion. Feel free to drop a comment. I am expecting the admins to read this as well.

Edits from feedback:

Edit1 (Partially inspired by Kenzo and ElpChidori):

Kage's have to sit on a chair at a desk with 2 papers in front of them. Both must be signed in order to complete the Truce mission. Lenght of the signing is x2 Bandum capture.

Option#1+: Kage's are Immobile during signing and can be interrupted. They can move again to kill the enemy and try to sign again. Time Limit: 5 Minutes. If Truce Failed, 5 Inf. Loss per Village and 10 Inf. Gain for opposing village
Option#2-: Kage's are completely Immobily during signing and can be killed easily. No Inf loss of Failed mission, because a Killed Kage counts as 5 Inf. Loss

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Edit2 (Partially inspired by Destructo and ElpChidori):
When the Truce is activated, the Influence is shared with both village where they will work together to reach Golden Age. However, Influence gain is dropped by a half, because of the fact that you have twice as many players working together.
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Edit3: (Mainly inspired by Lord King and elaborated by ElpChidori)

It is also possible to form Mercenary contracts. A special case with Akatsuki. Truce is possible with the Akatsuki under the condition of a large amount of fee and giving up 5 Influence for the Truce to happen. Influence Gain of Akatsuki is shared with the Village.

^ I especially like this idea. This means that we can have an All-out war. 2 Kage's versus 1 Kage + Akatsuki for an example. This sounds so tempting that I can't even sit still out of excitement.


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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:22 pm

I pretty much agree over all.

When the truce is in progress all ninja from the signing villages should have their pk turned off against eachother and only on for the left out village. That way they can guard/help without accidently killing one another in case of an ambush.

Also when you say the time should be like that of a double bandum as in they're both signing at the same time? If so i say it be one kage signs and once that kage's finished the other can then sign.
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:25 pm

That could work too. Or they just have to sit on a chair face to face in front of a desk with 2 papers on the desk. They have to click the papers in order the signing to take effect. That sounds pretty good don't you think? It's not that hard to map an extra desk + papers. So that will be the 4th condition. Both papers must be signed in order for it to work. Either one or both Kage's can be intercepted. And, the signing should be the lenght of a double bandum, because that would give the other village enough time to intercept, whereas the building of the Kage house will be strictly guarded with Anbu's.
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:42 pm

This is the best suggestion I've seen in a long time. I don't think the Kages should get exp for signing a piece of paper though. I agree with Elp's version, both Kages should become immobile because 1 Kage + 2 village's army vs 1 Kage + 1 village's army isn't fair. Not to mention that most ANBU's are pretty much equal to a Kage's strength.
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:45 pm

Kenzo wrote:
This is the best suggestion I've seen in a long time. I don't think the Kages should get exp for signing a piece of paper though. I agree with Elp's version, both Kages should become immobile because 1 Kage + 2 village's army vs 1 Kage + 1 village's army isn't fair. Not to mention that most ANBU's are pretty much equal to a Kage's strength.

Thanks for the compliment Kenzo. I actually sat down, during my train trip going to University , to plan all of this out. I have also put a slight suggestion at the Day/Night-time another person posted and added my own thoughts in it. I have a lot of other suggestions I'm thinking of, but I'm thinking them out thoroughly before posting it.

Also, about your comment. There are two options though.
1: Either they are immobile they way they are capturing a Bandum and they're able to move when they are intercepted and have to re-capture it. This will make them put into a 5 minute time to complete the signing.
2: Or they are completely immobile and defenseless and can only be intercepted when they are killed. However, when Kage's are killed, you already get a 5 Inf drop. So it would be unfair for the Truce making villages to get another 5+5 Inf deducted for failing the Truce.


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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:48 pm

This would make things interesting, it's a nice suggestion. Although I'd suggest, that one of the disadvantages of signing a truce with another village, would be to have your village's Exp and Inf gain decreased during that period of time.
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:48 pm

I like this. Might need some tweaking, but I like it.
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:50 pm

I added a little edit @ my quote to Kenzo. And thanks for the compliments and replies. Also Destructo, if you have read carefully, when the Truce is failed, both villages lose 5 Inf, to a grand-total gain of 10 Inf for the opposing village. Smile And the whole point of the Truce is to overcome the enemy that you weren't able to overcome. Although, if I take your suggestion into a thoughts. You could have the Influence gain divided by half. That means that both villages are working together as One Whole.


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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:54 pm

Destructo wrote:
This would make things interesting, it's a nice suggestion. Although I'd suggest, that one of the disadvantages of signing a truce with another village, would be to have your village's Exp and Inf gain decreased during that period of time.
^This

ElpChidori wrote:
Kenzo wrote:
This is the best suggestion I've seen in a long time. I don't think the Kages should get exp for signing a piece of paper though. I agree with Elp's version, both Kages should become immobile because 1 Kage + 2 village's army vs 1 Kage + 1 village's army isn't fair. Not to mention that most ANBU's are pretty much equal to a Kage's strength.

Thanks for the compliment Kenzo. I actually sat down, during my train trip going to University , to plan all of this out. I have also put a slight suggestion at the Day/Night-time another person posted and added my own thoughts in it. I have a lot of other suggestions I'm thinking of, but I'm thinking them out thoroughly before posting it.

Also, about your comment. There are two options though.
1: Either they are immobile they way they are capturing a Bandum and they're able to move when they are intercepted and have to re-capture it
2: Or they are completely immobile and defenseless and can only be intercepted when they are killed.
I prefer Option 1 lol
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Mercenary Contracts? That'd be dope. You can sign a contract with a missing-nin, they can access your village for as long as the contract binds them, and help villages receive INF.

It'd be good for those trying to get into a new village.
I just wouldn't mind being a hired hand for Kage's, without any actual obligation.
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:57 pm

Very interesting post. I like this also, but the GA INF decrease seems too extreme. I say lower GA percent by only 130%, not 125%. Gotta make sure people actually want to do this lol. And the Kages shouldn't loose any INF after this mission, considering the fact that they'll probably die anyway if the mission fails and loose 5 INF that way. As well as the S rank missions the anbu will be getting that will be a huge INF boost on it's own.
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:57 pm

Two with a def buff or something along those lines wouldn't be bad. Then again realistically it'd be 1. Nobody focuses on getting papers signed instead of being stabbed xD
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:58 pm

Alright. Well another chance thanks to Destructo's comment: Both villages share the same Inf during the Truce. However, the Inf gain is divided by half, because you are having the double amount of players working together towards Influence (Not to mention the fact that you can dispose a Kage easily with 2 Kage's working together)
However, Kage kill should remain +5 Inf.
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 6:01 pm

Lord King wrote:
Mercenary Contracts? That'd be dope. You can sign a contract with a missing-nin, they can access your village for as long as the contract binds them, and help villages receive INF.

It'd be good for those trying to get into a new village.
I just wouldn't mind being a hired hand for Kage's, without any actual obligation.

We could put that to a 2nd section. Like. Special Bounty Hunters/Mercenaries. Some extra effect for Missing-Nin's Or Akatsuki hiring. Like, You could make a truce with Akatsuki as well. However, to Hire Akatsuki you need to pay a lot of money for an example.

I am editting all of this on top again. Smile I like how King's thought made me come up with the Akatsuki. Thanks for the inspiration King!
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 6:17 pm

Even though something like this was gonna be introduced when Kyuubi was finished. I guess I support it, even though I can't stand the other villages..
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 25, 2013 10:19 am

Takeda Ikki wrote:
Even though something like this was gonna be introduced when Kyuubi was finished. I guess I support it, even though I can't stand the other villages..

It would be a good oppurtunity to get to know each other better. I wouldn't mind working with Kage's like Ayuki or Rod.
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 25, 2013 10:01 pm

this is cool
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 25, 2013 10:41 pm

Berlin(Troj) wrote:
this is cool

Thanks for the compliment man. Also, it's about time you read this.
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 27, 2013 12:28 pm

I agree 100% seems like a brilliant idea and should be implemented asap
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 16, 2013 1:42 pm

Bumped. =)
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 16, 2013 8:51 pm

What if instead they meet at iron village for there peace treaty instead of there kage houses since if your signing a truce you have to be present at the meeting. And they could only have 3 anbu present with them at meeting and when they get announce on world say and the samurai disappear. So the villages trying to stop the truce could not just get raped by the samurai npc or, the samurai get nerfed so they can get killed. I think it should be worth more then 10 inf since your killing a kages and stopping the signing. So maybe like 20 inf gain or something worth more then 10.
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 16, 2013 8:53 pm

I think if the influ for stopping it is that high ga should be proc'd at 150 influ to make it so they are harder to get.
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 17, 2013 1:47 pm

Krypto406 wrote:
I think if the influ for stopping it is that high ga should be proc'd at 150 influ to make it so they are harder to get.
This sounds pretty logical yes. This could be worked out as well.

As for Coold. The reason you want the treaty to be signed at the Iron Village is because you wanted to make it similar to the Peace Treaty of the Allied Shinobi Force, equal to the Naruto series right?

I like the thought of that, but that means the Samurais should be unable harm both villages during the signing. That would take some extra time in coding than originally planned. I still think that it's a lot easier to have it in a Kage Building. It sounds more official

But what could be possible it to have a certain NPC that will arrange the papers. Like, Granny Chiyo/Shikaku Nara/etc
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 17, 2013 2:03 pm

actually its better to sign a treaty in a neutral area...and besides samurais are bugged...they will probably get fixed soon anyway so that they will only attack the one whos attacked them
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PostSubject: Re: Village Truce (Bumped)   Village Truce (Bumped) I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 16, 2014 4:29 pm

I'm bumping this old thread up. =)
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