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PostSubject: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 2:36 am

So irons do a fuck ton of damage.
They have great aoe.
They have decently low cds for their aoe.
Unleashed slow is decent.
They have a silence.
0 chakra problems thanks to corruption.
A good damage boost from gold sand.
And they have a passive that allows them to stop mastered sub and lightning flash.

Now my point is, why on earth do they have the best utility in the game?
Their rain gives a def buff, kills clones instantly, and hp regen. Unleashed just stops most people from moving in their tracks because of the slow or they don't want to walk onto the spikes. And cluster is a huge nuke that most clans lose atleast 1/3 of their hp from.
Irons just do too much damage with their utility and low cds.
Unleashed lasts like 15 seconds, with like a 30 second cd. Thats around 15 on most irons when unleashed is down. Rain is about the same case, like 7 second time its up and 15 second cd and shit. Its just too much to deal with.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 2:37 am

I AGREE
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 7:32 am

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So since they nerfed iron rain. Unleash spam?
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 9:44 am

EDIT: Actually nvm. Should read more carefully..
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 3:06 pm

Krypto406 wrote:

They have decently low cds for their aoe.
Because of Flow and high handseals
Krypto406 wrote:

Unleashed slow is decent.
Getting removed
Krypto406 wrote:

0 chakra problems thanks to corruption.
And Chakra Flow
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Their rain gives a def buff, kills clones instantly, and hp regen.
Defense buff from Iron Blood and the regen is so small to even mention. You take that out, Irons lose the only regen they have.
Krypto406 wrote:

And cluster is a huge nuke that most clans lose atleast 1/3 of their hp from.
Provided the Iron lands it and the person doesnt lightning flashes out
Krypto406 wrote:

Irons just do too much damage with their utility
Getting nerfed for better poison

Wait for the nerf
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 3:17 pm

Quote :
Numbness - Your toxic shock prevents enemies from using substitution and lightning flash for 2/4/6 seconds.
Idk how long toxic shocks cd is but this passive needs a nerf. I mean silencing and stuff ok but 6 seconds? Toxic shock does the same stuff chidori current does but its effects lasts double the time. And you can still use sub when hit by chidori current.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 3:20 pm

remove numbness completely

You can't fucking counter it
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 4:17 pm

It doesn't say it stops other jutsus though, just substitution and lightning flash.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 4:18 pm

yes but toxic shock silences
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 4:21 pm

Oh I see...
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 7:16 pm

Irons just got a huge CDR nerf. They are fine. The last thing that need to be changed is unleash.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 8:17 pm

Just iron rain cd or all of the jutsus?
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 05, 2014 9:28 pm

All the jutsus
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 09, 2014 8:22 pm

Why do they actually have that much hp? An iron with inner blood can get up to almost 2k hp. I always thought they have average hp.
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PostSubject: Re: Iron Balance   Iron Balance I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 09, 2014 10:21 pm

Emp wrote:
remove numbness completely

You can't fucking counter it
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