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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Iron is underpowered Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:08 pm | |
| Note this is more for people -understanding- what Iron is. I don't hope for any rework of it anytime being Berlin has given up on this game entirely.Wi9th that out of the way before I give you calculations and mechanics of this clan, udnerstand my stats which are traditional level 120 Iron with Uchiha implants as well as Iron passive : It's skill tree I won't bother telling you as it is too much to read and you will see the results of it as I say the calculations and damage results. All of the following below was tested on a subject that had 1500 hp with 26% defence(The average Nin user stats)- Iron Spike:
Iron Spike Range: At a certain distance covered it is 3 tiled Damage:283 (rounding) 300Cooldown:4 seconds
- scattered shower:
Scattered shower Range: 3 tiled Damage: 165 Cooldown: 2 seconds
- Iron sand gathering:
Iron Sand Gathering Range: 3 tiled Damage: 665 Cooldown: 15 seconds
- Iron Sand rain:
Iron Sand Rain Range: 4 tiles horizontal and vertical of where you are positioned( You are able to move with this skill at full speed) Damage: 15 ticks = 764 . 1 tick = 50 Cooldown: 30 seconds
- Iron Sand unleash:
Iron Sand Unleash Range: 15 tiles vertical and horizontal of wherever you stood upon activating Damage: Running into one spike = 15 Cooldown:30 seconds
- Iron Sand Cluster:
Iron Sand Cluster Range: One tile ahead of you witha 3 by 3 vertical and horizontal Damage: 690 Cooldown: 20 seconds
Note I didnt speak of the poision DoT after full duration or toggle of Golden sand. Why? The numbers were so outrageous I thought the community would think I'm lying. Now, let's go over the mechanics of each skill in it's entirety - Elaboration:
Iron Sand spike: 2 second cooldown skill that is 3 tiled at certain range. It works as if Phoenix fire, but it only hits you once.
Scattered showers: 3 tiled attack that is 4 seconds in cooldown. By now you see the obvious -relentless- time window Iron has to attack someone.
Iron Sand gathering: This is the bread to the Iron's damage which with it's 20 second cooldown as well as combo able abiltiies is extremely deadly. It may look like it's 1 tiled, but it is indeed 3 tiled.
Iron Sand Rain: This skill is deadly being you can -move- with the an 4 by 4 Aoe as well as inflict poision if you touch your opponent -once-. Comboe'd with Iron Sand unleash, you could possibley land all 15 ticks.
Iron Sand Unleash:Some say this skill is only instant because of Uchiha implants. Nope. Without Uchiha implants this skill as a 120 Iron is instant. The momment you activate the 20 by 20 Aoe is activated. It then slows you -heavily- and inflicts posion .
Iron Sand cluster: The skill is said to be skill shot related, but I beg to differ being you are stunned no matter you are hit or not by the cube(You can use Iron Sand Rain while using cluister). It is also a 3 by 3 Aoe skill that does the heaviest damage of the Iron's. And with Iron Unleash, this skill is done with ease
. Now then there is the biggest problem with Iron. And what could that be? Possibley the fact that the extremely low cooldown long range skills inflict posion? Thats half way correct. It is the problem of Toxic Shock, A skill that is on a 15 second cooldown.We all know what Toxic shock does. You can do nothing against this Unlimited Range skill that is activated once you put posion on a target. No master sub. No Jutsu escape skill. Nothing at all. So when you have a skill tree like this, which is also coupled with instant Large Aoe skills, extremely low spammable long range skills and sustain and comboes that are outrageous, you must agree that indeed, Iron is underpowered.- A quote from Berlin about Iron's:
I don't really know what direction I was going with Iron
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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:25 pm | |
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Vegito05
Posts : 711 Join date : 2013-05-21
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:33 pm | |
| You srsly cry for buffs over any clan you play. And btw, the only 2 clans that dont need any kind of buff are snake and iron. P.S.: Nice exp you got there. | |
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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:34 pm | |
| - Vegito05 wrote:
- You srsly cry for buffs over any clan you play.
Wow. You literally read the Title and commented. - You are the 7th dumbest person in NNG:
Don't feel bad though, alot of people do this. Not too many make it this obvious though.
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Dppickle
Posts : 29 Join date : 2013-03-03
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:42 pm | |
| Rod until you've played Iron consistently, you have no right to speak on the clan or the way it's balanced. /thread | |
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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:03 pm | |
| - Dppickle wrote:
- Rod until you've played Iron consistently, you have no right to speak on the clan or the way it's balanced. /thread
See it's sad really that I can't give you an appropriate response, emp. Because I like to defend myself and challenge other people's ideals. But you, I just cant. Because everything you read is anger and every one of your responses are over the top and 70% unrelated to the topic. You question why I call you dumb, yet you come to every thread with the same 15-16 year old attitude. It is because of this you will not recieve an appropriate answer from me, and instead I will just say: - click:
Shut up emp.
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:03 pm | |
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Zanos
Posts : 671 Join date : 2013-02-05
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:25 pm | |
| He's being sarcastic about Iron being underpowered. | |
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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:25 pm | |
| - Zanos wrote:
- He's being sarcastic about Iron being underpowered.
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Dppickle
Posts : 29 Join date : 2013-03-03
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:16 pm | |
| - lRoderick wrote:
- Dppickle wrote:
- Rod until you've played Iron consistently, you have no right to speak on the clan or the way it's balanced. /thread
See it's sad really that I can't give you an appropriate response, emp. Because I like to defend myself and challenge other people's ideals. But you, I just cant. Because everything you read is anger and every one of your responses are over the top and 70% unrelated to the topic. You question why I call you dumb, yet you come to every thread with the same 15-16 year old attitude. It is because of this you will not recieve an appropriate answer from me, and instead I will just say:
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Shut up emp.
Do you proofread what you type? You sound like an idiot | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:18 pm | |
| - lRoderick wrote:
- Vegito05 wrote:
- You srsly cry for buffs over any clan you play.
Wow.
You literally read the Title and commented.
- You are the 7th dumbest person in NNG:
Don't feel bad though, alot of people do this. Not too many make it this obvious though.
Can we bumb him up to third or something? And make neko #1 too. | |
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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:15 pm | |
| - Krypto406 wrote:
- lRoderick wrote:
- Vegito05 wrote:
- You srsly cry for buffs over any clan you play.
Wow.
You literally read the Title and commented.
- You are the 7th dumbest person in NNG:
Don't feel bad though, alot of people do this. Not too many make it this obvious though.
Can we bumb him up to third or something? And make neko #1 too. I don't think Neko is dumb. Moreso A teenager who hasnt crossed the boundary of attention whore. | |
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Suspicious
Posts : 97 Join date : 2014-02-01
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:50 am | |
| - lRoderick wrote:
- Dppickle wrote:
- Rod until you've played Iron consistently, you have no right to speak on the clan or the way it's balanced. /thread
See it's sad really that I can't give you an appropriate response, emp. Because I like to defend myself and challenge other people's ideals. But you, I just cant. Because everything you read is anger and every one of your responses are over the top and 70% unrelated to the topic. You question why I call you dumb, yet you come to every thread with the same 15-16 year old attitude. It is because of this you will not recieve an appropriate answer from me, and instead I will just say:
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Shut up emp.
But I thought he was mocking you, Rod, because you said the say the exact same thing about Hyuugas. All that being said, Iron is getting reworked from what Berlin tells us. The threads are pointless because the changes are already being made. | |
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Chidori Admin
Posts : 214 Join date : 2014-03-01 Age : 31 Location : The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:38 am | |
| Emp's Sound Leader Iron was strong as fuck. That is all | |
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Ohadx
Posts : 69 Join date : 2013-02-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:57 am | |
| We already know that iron is OPed =/ | |
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lRoderick
Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-03-21
| Subject: Re: Iron is underpowered Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:19 pm | |
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