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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:25 am | |
| Wind has been low on the balance scale imo, but the only damage buff i want is wind shield, the rest is just changing a jutsu slightly to make them better overall.
GSW: Take away the pose after you cast the jutsu, it leaves us open for like 5 seconds including the charge up time.
Wind Shield: Damage is weak. I have: 990 chakra, 30 int, 5/5 in inner chakra, 3/3 in wind shield, and 2/2 in razor blades. So based on all of that the forums for damage is 990*4.8% and that equals 47.52 damage. But this is after 9 skill points and 30 stats That is a lot of skill points and stats for a jutsu that only does 47.52 damage. Buff it to like maybe 5% or 6% for the 3rd point in wind shield, making it get to 10% or 12% for the damage calculation when you put 2 more skill points in for the razor blades.
Ripping Gale: Make the pieces break off when they hit like a wall, so when you spam it in the forest the whole jutsu wont stop because one tree is in the way. Or you can make it like sickling wind and it pierces through solid things like trees and walls.
Mark of Death: The cooldown doesn't show up.
Edit: Make it so ds doesnt target standstill npcs.
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Gluscap
Posts : 198 Join date : 2013-02-04
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:31 am | |
| Wind clan became underwhelming after the nerfs imo. I think their power should have been redistributed to their other skills rather than getting an outright nerf. Them getting stunned while using one of their jutsu isn't fair, not only does it have a wind up time to allow people to run but it knocks them away before doing its main dmg and stuns the user for the windup. | |
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#Austic
Posts : 1289 Join date : 2013-03-01 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:54 pm | |
| I agree with all of the changes tbh | |
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Violence
Posts : 257 Join date : 2013-02-24
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:29 pm | |
| - krypto406 wrote:
- Wind has been low on the balance scale imo, but the only damage buff i want is wind shield, the rest is just changing a jutsu slightly to make them better overall.
GSW: Take away the pose after you cast the jutsu, it leaves us open for like 5 seconds including the charge up time.
Wind Shield: Damage is weak. I have: 990 chakra, 30 int, 5/5 in inner chakra, 3/3 in wind shield, and 2/2 in razor blades. So based on all of that the forums for damage is 990*4.8% and that equals 47.52 damage. But this is after 9 skill points and 30 stats That is a lot of skill points and stats for a jutsu that only does 47.52 damage. Buff it to like maybe 5% or 6% for the 3rd point in wind shield, making it get to 10% or 12% for the damage calculation when you put 2 more skill points in for the razor blades.
Ripping Gale: Make the pieces break off when they hit like a wall, so when you spam it in the forest the whole jutsu wont stop because one tree is in the way. Or you can make it like sickling wind and it pierces through solid things like trees and walls.
Mark of Death: The cooldown doesn't show up.
Ripping Gale is OP enough as it is, GSW is a magnitude 9 slow on a giant AoE of course it's going to have a downside, get more hand seals and that swing time passive. | |
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chrisw
Posts : 199 Join date : 2013-02-24
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:32 pm | |
| Handseals and swing time doesnt help the stun afterwards and by time the stun is over the slow has worn off, and it's pretty easy to dodge ripping gale plus if it hits a wall on any part of the jutsu it disappears | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:16 pm | |
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Eternal2
Posts : 909 Join date : 2013-02-14 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:16 pm | |
| Wind is fine, Hyuuga is fine. Nerf the last couple of op clans and these clans that you are saying that are weak now will look balanced. For starters nerf Uchihas damage. They hit too easily to be doing huge damage. | |
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Kenzo
Posts : 187 Join date : 2013-03-24 Location : Sand Village
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:26 pm | |
| - Eternal2 wrote:
- Wind is fine, Hyuuga is fine. Nerf the last couple of op clans and these clans that you are saying that are weak now will look balanced. For starters nerf Uchihas damage. They hit too easily to be doing huge damage.
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:38 pm | |
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Eternal2
Posts : 909 Join date : 2013-02-14 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:55 pm | |
| Oops I'm sorry Shadow I forgot how much you loved Uchihas. Let me ignore every op aspect of them because that's your favoriot clan. I guess we'll just nerf Wind and Hyuuga again just to get this nerf feeling out of our system, so Uchihas can remain the one special clan that's immune to being nerfed even a little because "Shadow" loves them. | |
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Kyuz
Posts : 1003 Join date : 2013-03-03
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:04 pm | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:38 pm | |
| im not cheezz...if the majority thinks uchiha should get nerfed then uchiha should get nerfed idgaf what u think about me...im not some fag who will try to nerf other clans and dont touch his own clan also about dodging...its still true even if uchihas get nerfed ur not the kaguya with sl suit and op regen anymore eternal...maybe u still didnt realize that and thats because my dragon flames hit u that often w/e if u want some nerfs itd be my pleasure to help u ill even make a thread myself | |
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#Austic
Posts : 1289 Join date : 2013-03-01 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:50 pm | |
| Both of you are correct in a way. Moves like Chidori and even Dragon Flames aren't really hard to hit. But I think Phoenix? Flower isn't really too hard to hit, which is why Inferno needs to be nerfed cause the dmg on it isn't too much, it's just that after burn | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:09 pm | |
| - Eternal2 wrote:
- Wind is fine, Hyuuga is fine. Nerf the last couple of op clans and these clans that you are saying that are weak now will look balanced. For starters nerf Uchihas damage. They hit too easily to be doing huge damage.
Windies cant use gsw or ds without running away or: hyuugas will just kill you before it goes off, a uchiha will use every jutsu and kill you, kag will get you in ferns and kill you, windies will ripping gale, sandies can use their combo and kill, and yukis will dodge it with mirrors. Edit: there is a reason why there are barely any windies on the sever. The fact they cant use 2 of their major jutsus without dieing is one of them. | |
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Cheezz
Posts : 268 Join date : 2013-02-10
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:57 pm | |
| haha, im being trolled by shadow. Yet kryptoagrees winds take skill to land an attack without getting fuckjed up while doing them, i dont even play no more. so i guess some shit couldive changed | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:58 pm | |
| - Cheezz wrote:
- haha, im being trolled by shadow. Yet kryptoagrees winds take skill to land an attack without getting fuckjed up while doing them, i dont even play no more. so i guess some shit couldive changed
I dont think wind has gotten a single buff sense they have came out. Besides when berlin actually put in gsw back when it was just for show. | |
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Cheezz
Posts : 268 Join date : 2013-02-10
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:58 pm | |
| fact is, if you try to post about balancing clans, and you kill people alot. people will now define you as a : Cheezz | |
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Cheezz
Posts : 268 Join date : 2013-02-10
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:59 pm | |
| krypto, dont get qind shield. its pointless and chakra draining. | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:00 am | |
| - Cheezz wrote:
- fact is, if you try to post about balancing clans, and you kill people alot. people will now define you as a : Cheezz
I very rarely kill any hyuuga or uchiha on my level or thats 120. And I sometimes kill kags below my level by about 20-40. I never kill a on level or higher level kag. | |
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chrisw
Posts : 199 Join date : 2013-02-24
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:02 am | |
| - krypto406 wrote:
- Cheezz wrote:
- fact is, if you try to post about balancing clans, and you kill people alot. people will now define you as a : Cheezz
I very rarely kill any hyuuga or uchiha on my level or thats 120. And I sometimes kill kags below my level by about 20-40. I never kill a on level or higher level kag. you killed me twice on my 80 Kaguya....And yeah wind shield is horrible, they should let you keep some regen with it on like the sharigan instead of just being a complete stopper | |
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Cheezz
Posts : 268 Join date : 2013-02-10
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:03 am | |
| yeaah i noticed before i left, no matter how cheap i was i died to low level uchihas and hyuugas. mostly uchihas doe. its because of the stuns in your jutsus, thats the only reason i ever got hit. | |
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Cheezz
Posts : 268 Join date : 2013-02-10
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:05 am | |
| idunno but before i left numba one clan was uchiha. | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Wind Changes (my opinion post yours too) Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:06 am | |
| - chrisw wrote:
- krypto406 wrote:
- Cheezz wrote:
- fact is, if you try to post about balancing clans, and you kill people alot. people will now define you as a : Cheezz
I very rarely kill any hyuuga or uchiha on my level or thats 120. And I sometimes kill kags below my level by about 20-40. I never kill a on level or higher level kag. you killed me twice on my 80 Kaguya....And yeah wind shield is horrible, they should let you keep some regen with it on like the sharigan instead of just being a complete stopper Yea sometimes but at level 80 you can only get like 2 or 1 skills from the final tier of the skill tree which can be game breaking for some clans. | |
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