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ElpChidori
Posts : 891 Join date : 2013-04-05 Age : 31 Location : The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:14 pm | |
| Well, I wasn't talking about a short cooldown though. Just slightly shorter wouldn't hurt a fly. Not with the current drawbacks anyway. | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:14 pm | |
| actually u could remove the cd completly and add huge drawbacks on mangekyou jutsus...would also be more like in the anime/manga | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:01 pm | |
| snakes still deal too much damage and their regen is also not nerfed enough | |
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Musab
Posts : 435 Join date : 2013-05-02
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:45 pm | |
| indeed, ive seen a health bar go from like 3% to 25% in an instant | |
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ElpChidori
Posts : 891 Join date : 2013-04-05 Age : 31 Location : The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:52 pm | |
| Uchihas are super dangerous to use now. You will die in no-time with the depleting chakra. | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:21 am | |
| EDIT: actually nvm what i said...i tweaked a few passives and can use a few more jutsus..seems to be fine..though just 30% for tripled chakra cost is a bit low...(nerf other damage increase passives and buff demonic blood instead >:O)
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ElpChidori
Posts : 891 Join date : 2013-04-05 Age : 31 Location : The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:37 am | |
| Imo. I think the Triple Cost chakra is okay the way it is with the Damage it gives, since Uchihas have always been very OP with their high amount of Jutsu Damage. They're like one of the only clans that can go up to 200% Though instead of losing 20% HP, it could use a little drop to 15% hp maybe.
And yes. You can hold Demonic Blood just fine if you consider to boost Inner Chakra 5/5 and Chakra Flow 3/3 | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:40 am | |
| i jsut dont like how it sounds...30% damage increase for tripled chakra costs..whereas there are those other passives giving damage increase without any chakra costs...should tweak a bit without increasing damage increase overall | |
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Kyuz
Posts : 1003 Join date : 2013-03-03
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:54 am | |
| What if you want damage increase but with the same chakra cost? The other passives r fine the way the are. Youre not OBLIGATED to get demonic blood guys... | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:55 am | |
| eh...as i said i jsut dont like the way it sounds...w/e it seems to be fine | |
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Kyuz
Posts : 1003 Join date : 2013-03-03
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:59 am | |
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HeilMeinExodus
Posts : 258 Join date : 2013-05-23
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:04 pm | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:06 pm | |
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HeilMeinExodus
Posts : 258 Join date : 2013-05-23
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:07 pm | |
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Kyuz
Posts : 1003 Join date : 2013-03-03
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:49 am | |
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HeilMeinExodus
Posts : 258 Join date : 2013-05-23
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:00 am | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:17 pm | |
| i think wind needs some of its slows removed...last time i fought one i could barely move without being slowed...in exchange they should get more chakra or that chakra regen passive | |
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HeilMeinExodus
Posts : 258 Join date : 2013-05-23
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:04 pm | |
| I do not believe so, the purpose of wind is to avoid being hit at all, so why remove their slows? | |
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Vegito05
Posts : 711 Join date : 2013-05-21
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:16 pm | |
| What does slowing have to do with dodging. When my kaguya is slowed, i can't even use clematis. | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:32 pm | |
| Shadow wind has 3 slows. GSW, sandstorm, and sickling wind 0.5 second slow. I think their slows are fine. | |
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HeilMeinExodus
Posts : 258 Join date : 2013-05-23
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:36 pm | |
| Did you really say what does slowing an opponent have to do with not being hit? When slowed a wind has more chances to attack, wind isn't a clan that can go toe to toe with a kag frontal | |
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Shadow
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-02-12
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:27 pm | |
| - Krypto406 wrote:
- Shadow wind has 3 slows. GSW, sandstorm, and sickling wind 0.5 second slow. I think their slows are fine.
well...gsw is aoe and got a decent cd from what i saw..so i dont think its the problem..the problem are sandstorm and sickling wind...they are like 4-5 tiled(?), move fast and got low cd right? besides i noticed that wind jutsus got a chance to get u into that tornado thing stunning u...so i still think they have too many effective slows so imo wind needs a bit less slows and more chakra instead about snakes...their regen is indeed high but thats what snake was supposed to have originally...high regen/stamina for low damage...rebel indeed got op regen but lets not forget that he got 41 stamina, sl regen boost and the main point is hes a snake so he indeed should have high regen the problem is not rly the regen..its the damage..i noticed that their meele is as strong as hyuugas/kaguyas meele and their g button also does a too decent damage for a snake...another thing are those sword waves..they do decent damage and slow so i think that it should also slow the user so that he cant spread them that effectively/much about uchiha damage...i found a way to deal shitload of damage without having demonic blood...with the current passives/stats i got my damage is almost on par with uchihas who got demonic blood and i also dont have any chakra problems at all...ofc i dont have some passives that most surely get but i can "bypass" the damage nerf sand seems to be perfectly fine right now..if they are slowed down cause of sand armor they will become a bit underpowered and all the other clans seem fine to me EDIT: forgot iron...their iron sand unleash is op again cause it got its old effects back and got low cd..if u would remove some of zhe effects again iron would become underpowered again so...it shouldnt slow that much and get a higher cd (or have a high windup time like tsunami does) and in return those huge clusters should fire a lot faster | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:49 pm | |
| Shadow we sandstorm has a decent cd. But wind's jutsus are 5 tiles because of hurricane which we have to put 3 point in so it doesnt increase the cooldowns on our moves. And twister we put 3 points in for a 20% chance they will spin for 0.7 seconds. And sickling wind and sandstorm do now move as nearly as fast as they could with condensed wind.
But I agree my problem is irons. Unleashes should either be a weaker slow or do less damage. With the current strength of unleash you move as fast as someone with weights on which makes all their jutsus retardedly easy to hit which all deal a decent bit of damage.
I kinda want it so ferns has a visible charge up. I've seen kags hold f and do ferns at the same time and it killed me because I had no possible chance to dodge the ferns.
As far as I can tell I don't have any real problems with any other clans.
Edit: Hyuugas: their rotation is like a 5 second hourglass which is op as fuck. They should either drain alot more chakra for the damage they take or their drain should be high as they hold it longer.
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Vegito05
Posts : 711 Join date : 2013-05-21
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:15 pm | |
| Wind have too many slows. When i fight a wind (for example you) i have to spam camellia so i don't get slowed too much.
Snake needs a huge dmg nerf. I got 30 str and i don't do shit compared to Rebel. He melees me out without any problems.
Like always, unleash cooldown is too low. The cooldown needs to be doubled. | |
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Krypto406
Posts : 1546 Join date : 2013-02-07 Age : 27 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: Huge patch Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:28 pm | |
| bro we have 3 slows. I have yuki second passive just like you. | |
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